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  Krunal | June 06, 2008
  The Crotch Grabbing I had seen, as well as the Homoerotic Sword Fighting but numbers 3, 2 & 1 sure are new to me...
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    Zero and X | June 06, 2008
    3, 2, and 1 are all from Metal Gear 2. Jack is Raiden btw.
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      Krunal | June 06, 2008
      Yes I know that... MGS2 is probably the only game I've played fully. I just haven't seen them in-game before. I never tended to call Rose much to just 'talk' you see
      
      And actually 2 is from MGS1 I believe.
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        Gamesta100 | June 07, 2008
        2 is indeed MGS1.I finished that game so many times, I can practically remember every second of the game.
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        Krunal | June 07, 2008
        Yeah I know it because I've played MGS2 soo many times, I don't remember that scene from that game
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  Subzer0 | June 06, 2008
  Correction. Otacon sleeps with his step mom.
  
  And lol at Jack and Rose being number 1 on that list.
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    Krunal | June 06, 2008
    It was one hell of a lengthy conversation though, and seeing how many times I played that game and never heard that conversation, it really amazed me.
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  StabWound | June 06, 2008
  No mention of the Vamp being bisexual converstion?
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    Krunal | June 07, 2008
    Which conversation was that? I don't remember such a thing.
    
    
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      StabWound | June 08, 2008
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpx5TW1A68I
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  Evanster 69 | June 07, 2008
  I've never had anything to do with Metal Gear and after seeing No.'s 5, 4, and 3 I don't think I want to.
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  iLLmatic | June 07, 2008
  I never did understand hat all that dick hand shaking was all about. I remember when Raiden first got groped, I let it slide because the prez thought he was a woman, but when he wasn't too shook up to find out he was a man, I was like wtf? That whole scene with Volgin just made me believe that he had a different relationship with the colonel off duty. Anyway, I thought they would have the guard taking a shit in MGS3 on the list. That dude sounded like he passed his life out through his ass.
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  Storm | June 07, 2008
  The crotch-grabbing should be #1, imo. iLLmatic's example of MGS2...damnit that was awkward.
  
  And what about Raiden being stripped and tortured. We took control of a naked Raiden, like wtf? How about The colonel telling you to take off the game. xD Breaking down the fourth wall.
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  Gothic Girl | June 07, 2008
  Haha, fantastic list. I don't think I'd noticed the abundance of crotch-grabbing in the series until they put it all together in one moment. Hilarious stuff.
  
  Otacon revealing that he'd slept with his step-mum was a very awkward moment indeed.
  
  

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  Hideo Kojima once said that the character of Rose and her relationship with Jack was at least partly based upon his own wife. He wasn't laughing. For the first time in my life I find myself feeling very, very sorry for that man.

  I'm sure every other MGS fan were feeling sorry for Kojima at that point too.
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    Krunal | June 07, 2008
    Why is it that I don't actually remember him revealing that he'd slept with his step-mom... or have I just forgotten? :s
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      Seeker X | June 07, 2008
      Optional Codec conversations. I think it's when you call Otacon after Emma dies, not sure.
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        iLLmatic | June 07, 2008
        I don't remember it being optional. I remember a cutscene during the section where Raiden is swimming with EE where the basement had been flooded. Am I mistaken?
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        Seeker X | June 07, 2008
        I think that time was Otacon explaining Emma's phobia of water...like I said I don't remember exactly.
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        Gothic Girl | June 08, 2008
        I'm pretty sure it's not optional.
        Right after Emma died, Otacon calls Snake and reveals his past then. At least, I think that's not an optional scene.
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        Krunal | June 08, 2008
        Hmm I'm still not sure, I just don't remember there being ANY incest involved in the game, and last I remember, it was certainly not discussed in the forums, and things like these don't stay 'hidden'
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        Gothic Girl | June 08, 2008
        It probably hasn't come up in the forums because it was only his step-mum, so it wasn't actual incest. The forumgoers probably didn't think it was worth talking about.
        If it had been his REAL mum ... now THAT would be a screwed up story
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        Krunal | June 08, 2008
        Yeah it would have been screwy... but now I have to play through MGS2 to try and remember what exactly was said in that 45 minute long cut-scene... I just don't remember it having anything to do with anyones mum
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  Twilight | June 07, 2008
  Metal Gear has some of the most awkward moments i have ever seen. I applaud them for this.