The Case Of The Troll And The Killzone 2 Developer

Krunal | February 27, 2008 | News | Playstation 3

In what can be described as a member Trolling and succeeding, one of Killzone 2's lashed out at a member after a post made by a member known as CowboyJunkie. The dev in question, EON had answered many questions within the Ask the Dev thread, and when faced with a troll suggesting that Killzone 2 IS (not he used present tense and not the future tense) a failure, EON held nothing back...

Honestly. I've started writing this reply three times, switching from angry flaming of the kind of mentality that draws people to wasting their lives making posts like the above, through into a factual listing of the many inaccuracies in your post (almost every word is, in fact, objectively incorrect). I've no idea what makes gamers turn so frigging nasty when Devs don't cater to their every whim and I'm not going to start guessing now - if you want to go be excited about Eight Days then be my guest. You're not commiting apostacy, nobody's going to want to tear you to pieces for it. You're really not going to hurt my feelings.

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jmac353 | February 27, 2008

He handled it very well, I'm having trouble discerning how this is news or if there's anything actually of interest here besides human nature? No new information, just a human being responding to another human being. I guess any time any developer responds in a forum we should post it on gamegrep? I know this might come off terribly mean, but it's the truth.
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carzy | February 27, 2008

This question doesn't have much to do with the Dev's post, but is that the box art for killzone 2 or just a mock up?
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Seproth | February 27, 2008

He's not going to admit it sucks. Even if he believes Eight Days is truly a better game.

However, I do think that Killzone 2 is a failure. At least in some small way after the E3 2005 video that was, if memory serves, claimed to be real for about a week. It still looks pretty good, but nowhere near that video.

Adding to that how lackluster the original Killzone was. Given the question, and it's wording. I don't fault him at all for expressing frustration in his reply. However, he has to understand that Killzone has kinda started in a hole. By being hyped tremendously and following a game that was very average.
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  iLLmatic | February 27, 2008
  
  Please, PLEASE explain to me how you can say that Killzone 2 is a failure.
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    Seproth | February 27, 2008
    
    No, I don't mean it's a failure.
    
    But they have failed to meet the promises of the E3 05 video. So in a small way they have failed.
    
    I don't mean the game in any way. I haven't played it to know whether or not it is in fact a failure of classic.
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      jmac353 | February 27, 2008
      
      I can understand where you're coming from Seproth from that standpoint but your whole first statement is in dire need of a rewrite. Failure is not the correct word at all. To say that would be to succumb to the same ignorance that this "troll" has put on display.
      
      He even pointed out Seproth that they were never Guerilla Games themselves was never saying or even alluding to the fact that the E305 demo was what the final game was going to look like, it was all due to an over zealous Sony correspondent.
      
      No one can say anything about Killzone 2, the fact that some nobody that has only seen as much footage as the rest of us, that being about 2 minutes total thinks he knows how good a game is going to be is pure nonsense. It's absolutely outrageous.
      
      Just for the sake of argument let's compare what we've seen of Killzone 2 and what we've seen of Eight Days so far. Eight Days doesn't even look promising where as Killzone 2 actually does, and not only that, we've seen far less of Eight Days than Killzone 2.
      
      I have to stop myself now because this whole argument is just *bleep*ing stupid.
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      Seproth | February 28, 2008
      
      Yeah, they never really did say that the E3 video was real.
      
      Microsoft pulled that shit awhile ago too. When Bill Gates said Halo 3 would release the date the PS3 went on sale. It wasn't a huge deal then either, but Sony is their employer and it's up to them to make good on promises even if, they themselves, didn't actually make them. *which is limited of course to publishers, and those close to the development*
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Red 9 | February 27, 2008

Case in point: Killzone 2 is just a name until it's eventually released, at which time we may truly evaluate this game. Until then, must we debate over a name?

If any game is a failure, however, it's Gundam Crossfire...lol.
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Vito Raliffe | February 28, 2008

Or Superman 64
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joshthegreat | February 28, 2008

I think it has to eb account that Killzone 1 is already very different from Killzone 2. I mean look at the size of the development team for one; it's freakin' huge. Sony are also flooding this project with money from every which way. If this game turns out to be a 'failure' I'd be extremely suprised.

I also wouldn't call the first Killzone 'average'. I for one enjoyed the hell out of it.
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  Red 9 | February 28, 2008
  
  It was mostly the controls that were bashed (mainly the aiming reticule), but Killzone 1 was one of those games you always heard your friends talk about. It was hardly a failure to users.
  
  I have indeed said that Killzone 1 wasn't great, and why should the sequel be any better, but that was before I decided to research and ask around.