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Brawl proving the Wii isn't for real gamers? I doubt it...

black doom | January 27, 2008 | News | Wii 
Still it is an interesting theory, it suggests that if Brawl fails to sell it will spell the end of the Wii's chances at having a hardcore following. While I see it as much more likely Brawl will be a huge system seller it does give an interesting perspective.



Lately, we have heard only good things about Super Smash Brothers Brawl, but now a Japanese game developer who uses the alias “JC Barnett” has expressed concern for the new Nintendo Wii title. Surprisingly, I basically agree with his opinions of Super Smash Brothers Brawl and the Nintendo Wii. He believes that this game will confirm the fact that the Wii is not appealing to hard-core gamers and that future developers need to stick to casual games for the system. He also mentions that he believes that the Wii may not even be part of the current console war. I have believed that for a while, but it’s not a very popular opinion to have these days. I have always felt like the Wii had a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3, but somehow people find that hard to believe. For whatever reason, fanboys tend to get all bent out of shape when you mention that the Wii is a “casual” system. I’m not sure why because it really is a casual gaming option.

Is the Wii the wrong system for a game such as Super Smash Brothers Brawl? I’d have to say with certainty that it probably would have been better on the Sony PS3 or Xbox 360. Considering it’s only on the Wii, it will probably sell really well though, at least for a while. I hope you fanboys out there don’t try to go off on me for this opinion. There’s nothing wrong with the Nintendo Wii, but it’s certainly just a different kind of system than what you get with the 360 and PS3.

Here’s what he had to say:

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As a spurious prediction I’d say we may see a promising start with the usual drop-off over the next few months and sales figures that would make anyone proud but that are still lower than expected, a bit like Super Mario Galaxy. If Sumabura [Super Smash Bros. Brawl] doesn’t sell that well it would be proof positive that the Wii isn’t a hard-core friendly platform. I suspect already that it isn’t, but a title like this could prove it once and for all.

This also means the Wii is out of the “console war”. It has its own market distinctly different from its competitors, whom must fight amongst themselves for their own top spot. Both Microsoft and Sony are making wooing noises to the casual market but they’ll have a hard time stealing customers from the big N.

So any publisher looking to make money on the Wii must squarely look at casual and avoid hard-core at all costs.

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  • 0 thumbs!
    SSJ3 Trunks | January 27, 2008
    Yeah, this is the game that is gonna decide wither the wii was worth it or not....
    Dang...there are plenty of other games to chose from then this. Although it does look kick-ass.
  • 0 thumbs!
    m xdogz | January 27, 2008
    Pity, hopefully wii will survive.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Seeker X | January 27, 2008
    Well...seeing as there's really no other Wii game I've been hearing around, and Brawl's hype is through the roof. If Brawl does fail to meet expectations (which I doubt), it could be an almost-fatal blow to its reputation.

    And the Wii was never really in the console war to start with. Even Nintendo officials have stated it, even though they've had a few hypocritical remarks against their "competitors" while they did so.
  • 0 thumbs!
    black doom | January 27, 2008
    The Wii is a solid console. The only problem is so the developers are struggling to un-tap the potential, they are not bothering to figure out the tricks to making good Wii games. We have to start cracking down on developers, but not harshly, we need to give them a good incentive but we need to force them towards making better games.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Mattyo94 | January 27, 2008
    adzacly we need some games that really show the Wiis capibilitys i think brawls gana be one of thoes
  • 1 thumbs!
    twilightprince | January 27, 2008
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    sales figures that would make anyone proud but that are still lower than expected, a bit like Super Mario Galaxy.
    Huh? Galaxy has sold almost 6 million copies in 2 1/2 months. That's lower then expected?

    And I'm willing to bet that Brawl will reach and/or surpass that mark. Brawl's sales won't disappoint, it's only been one of the most hyped games ever.
  • -4 thumbs!
    m xdogz | January 28, 2008
    Well wii got one other decent game coming that'll help it to survive. MH3.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Seproth | January 28, 2008
    If Brawl is anything like Melee it'll be easy to pick up and play and hard to master. The way all fighters should be. This won't test hardcore levels of wii owners.

    You wanna do that port over Ninja Gaiden, or DMC 3 and see how well they sell. I bet they wouldn't do that great. Wii is more of a fad at the moment for many of the owners.
  • 0 thumbs!
    jmac353 | January 28, 2008
    I don't see how one game could prove otherwise. It's all about what the majority of games are for a console. Games like Brawl and Galaxy are not in the majority.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Gothic Girl | January 28, 2008
    Geez, what was with all the "thumbs down" ratings? Looks like some people can't handle negative articles against Brawl. Pfft.

    The article is right really. There is plenty of hype surrounding Brawl - If the game ended up being mediocre or not what people expected, then that would obviously be a huge dint for the Wii itself.
    Heck, Brawl is the Wii's most anticipated game. It's what many (if not most) Wii owners are planning on buying. There would be a lot of disappointment if the game ended up being not all it was made out to be.
    People might say that one game doesn't matter in the big scheme of things, but this is THE game for Wii. Something better and more hyped might come out later on, but at the moment Brawl is THE must-have game for Wii. Of course it matters if the game succeeds or fails.

    Mind you, I wouldn't consider the Wii being in the console war anyways. Nintendo has clearly stated that they aren't competing with Sony and Microsoft. They don't want to compete - They're focusing on their own console and their own audience. The Wii's target audience is vastly different than the 360 and PS3. Completely different people buy the Wii for completely different reasons than a 360 or PS3.
    • -4 thumbs!
      black doom | January 28, 2008
      Even if a number of Wii games are for the casual crowd there will still be more serious games for it as time goes by. Furthermore the industry doesn't have infinite resources so the same developers make games for the Wii as for the other consoles, so the Wii is clearly a part of the console wars. As I said before the Wii can't grow in the serious game department until gamers make developers take it seriously, so do me a favor and stop letting them take the easy way out.
    • 0 thumbs!
      Storm | January 28, 2008
      Well said, GG.

      It's not as if Brawl's the only alternative (Mario Kart Wii is also to be a hit), though it is the most hyped. Hell, Halo 3 was the most-hyped for the 360, wasn't it? And the same thing can be said for MGS4 on the PS3. Sure, the 360 and PS3 have other games in store for us, but that doesn't mean the Wii has nothing.

      As mentioned, they are targeting a different audience. They didn't try to go up against PS360 in the graphics department, or many others for that matter. It's just the kind of games for families and friends, really.

      I gotta say, last Monday I played WiiSports with a few old friends of mine, and I can't remember the last time we had that much fun. Nintendo seems to be looking past the whole 'competitiveness,' and going for something else. Fun, fun, fun, and more fun.

  • 0 thumbs!
    Oceanic Sun | January 28, 2008
    I really don't think that Nintendo will be screwing this up. The immediate plus was that you can design your own stages. You can't screw up if you can do that, especially when a game also has online capabilities.
  • 0 thumbs!
    CampusVoice | January 28, 2008
    It's really a not issue, because this game will sell through the roof and be a huge hit. It's going to be a phenomenon.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Ares81883 | January 28, 2008
    I think as long as the game sticks fairly closely to the original formula, the game will do fine. I like my Wii a lot, it is a fun system and is great for multiple to play fun games together. I will be purchasing Brawl as I was a huge fan of the original. Like some others that own the Wii though, for hardcore gaming such as Bioshock, Crysis, COD4 and others I head to either my PC or 360.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Revenger of Wastelan | January 28, 2008
    Since when was the Wii considered "for hardcore gamers?"
    I always saw Wii as the family fun console.
    • 0 thumbs!
      Seproth | January 28, 2008
      Umm...thats the point of this article. The wii isn't for hardcore gamers. So will a game like this sell? Of course it will. But it's not exactly a good "test" for that.

      Like I said earlier if you wanna test that bring something really hard and see how well it sells. Like ninja gaiden or some crazy shit rpg that allows for tons of tweaking and doesn't guide you.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Sonic Flash | January 28, 2008
    Like SSBM it will sell consoles and be a great game for years to come.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Krunal | January 28, 2008
    This game not selling? Don't make me laugh. I'm a devote Playstation player, and I'd buy the Wii just for this game.
    • 0 thumbs!
      black doom | January 28, 2008
      If you do PM your friend code, despite sucking at most games I hope to play many member at Brawl.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Final Blade | January 29, 2008
    Don't take this the wrong way, i hope brawl does do well so i have a reason to buy it and a wii, but from all the delays and stuff i have a feeling its going to be a failure. I mean its beyond ridiculous and i would like to know why its keep being delayed.

    They're hyping this game alot, like Halo 3, but some fans were disappointed with that game. I expect its going to happen with this game as well. Cause you can't please everyone. But before anyone thumbs me down im a SSB, and SSBM fan i loved those games and i hope im wrong here.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Remino52 | January 29, 2008
    This is crap because brawl will rock.

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