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  Final Blade | June 07, 2008
  <sub>I don't agree with Turn Based battle system on that list. It sounds like they rather play a MMO than a RPG.
  
  Text when was the last time RPG's had Text, in the Playstation days yes, but PS2 RPG's had voice overs if im correct so I don't get what they're talking about that.
  
  Nothing in the gaming world is original, rarely will you find a new game that has brought new stuff at the table that has never been done before.
  
  As a matter of fact I don't agree with any of the list. It seems they're ranting for the sake of ranting.</sub>
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    Existenz | June 07, 2008
    Turn based battle is bullshit, i mean just because its mystical and magical doesn't mean they should disobey the laws of a fight, no one in their right mind goes into a fight and says "you go first, hit me and then i'll hit you and we carry on until one of us is dead" RPG's that take on turn based fighting loses my interest because i know what a fight is and even if it is a human or a 6000ft monster the fight would always be the same and it wouldn't involve taking turns in an orderly fashion.
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      Gothic Girl | June 07, 2008
      Since when were RPG battle systems going for realism though?
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        HisServant77 | June 07, 2008
        Hahaha, that would be a bit funny though to two people fighting like that in real life!
        
        Oh wait, I think I've seen it several times. A little comical, if done with some good one-liners in between.
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        HisServant77 | June 07, 2008
        Hahaha, that would be a bit funny though to two people fighting like that in real life!
        
        Oh wait, I think I've seen it several times. A little comical, if done with some good on-liners in between.
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      Final Blade | June 08, 2008
      _{Nikki since when was RPG's realistic in anyway? Thats right its not realistic hence why it has the shit in the game. If it was realistic in anyway RPG's would have been dead since the beginning.}
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  Seeker X | June 07, 2008
  You could put a list of why to hate tons of other genres with reasons like these and you'd be right, of course you'd be disregarding the fans of the genre itself...not so likeable when someone does the same against your fav genre.
  
  Yes, I hate turn based gameplay, the constant sword fighting, and the such...not exactly gonna call them outright flaws just because I don't like it.
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  DusktoDawn | June 07, 2008
  Yessss!!
  
  Symphonia did not make those mistakes! ◎.◎
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  Bunnyburn | June 07, 2008
  There's nothing wrong with turn-based. There's nothing wrong with realtime either. It's all preference. Sure, since turn-based has been done so much, it seems boring unless a good twist is put in it. Turn-based isn't about reflexes and timing, it's about strategy and planning. Judging by the reasons suggested in this article, the writer has played maybe 2 TBRPGS ever.
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  MentallyUnstable | June 07, 2008
  I completely agree with Final Blade in that I don't agree with this list. FFXII wasn't turn-based, and although the prospect sounded promising, I completely missed it. Some things sort of make RPGs, and turn-based is one of those things(in my opinion). Real time is a gem, too.
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  Mario_1 | June 07, 2008
  Uh... There's nothing wrong with turn-based combat, unless it's that "Active Time Battle" crap. Real-time combat and turn-based combat are both potentially awesome, but in-between just sucks.
  
  I don't see this list making much sense.
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  Supernouva | June 07, 2008
  Well, I've played FFX about 5 times over, and I'd gladly play it again. It does get a little frustrating that the turn based system limits being able to attack and defend, but I got over it. Like someone mentioned above, it's all about strategy, and that's what I liked about the turn-based system, it made you plan ahead for a battle because anything could happen.
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  TurMoiL911 | June 07, 2008

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  4. Killing Small Woodland Creatures (Slave to the Grind)

  What the hell ? I would go out of my way for a game like that.
  
  Is that wrong ?
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  Seproth | June 07, 2008
  WE don't... -_-
  
  Although I always thought turn based combat was a bit of a turnoff on buying rpg's. It was great... but it's time to move on. I think they were turn based for lack of a better option.
  
  Modern RPGs shouldn't be more turn based then KOTOR imo.
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  ali3n | June 07, 2008
  Number 5 is a pretty biased reason, they act as though every game from other genre is oozing with originality and interesting new ideas.
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  Gamesta100 | June 07, 2008
  Personally turn based RPG's are my favourite.
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  ryu750 | June 07, 2008
  Ive always called them STRATEGIC BASED RPGs not Turn based a lot of todays players hear turn based and don't even know what that means.
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  Zero and X | June 07, 2008
  How about telling us why we should care? I love rpgs and this article isnt gonna make me hate them suddenly.
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  Zeon I | June 07, 2008
  Killing small Woodland creatures is the main reason why I play RPGs. Endless dialouge can go to hell, though.
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  Deathsythe | June 07, 2008
  Poo on this article, RPGs kick ass. They can take you into another world, letting you escape your boring mundane life. Plus I have hardly found an RPG that wasn't of epic proportions.
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  Krunal | June 07, 2008
  Hate? I love RPG's, anyone that knows me knows that I'm a big RPG fan. I must say I disagree with every point that this article makes.
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  a Dude | June 07, 2008
  The Battle System in Tales of Symphonia was really good. That was also the only real RPG I got into.
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  Dance Floor Killah | June 07, 2008
  Eh, turn-based or realtime, I like them both. But I certainly don't hate RPGs.
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  kik36 | June 08, 2008
  They were talking about how great the voice acting in Oblivion is........obviously they don't have a frickin' clue wtf they are talking about.
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    slumpy monkey | June 08, 2008
    WTF you on? The voice acting was AWESOME. Sure the voices were used over but the voices themselves were excelent. The emotion seems so real.
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      kik36 | June 08, 2008
      The emotions were real? The king was as emotional as a carboard box. Sorry but IMO when it comes down to any type of great voice acting, Oblivion dropped the ball HARD.
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        Seeker X | June 08, 2008
        Hahaha...Ok you're telling me that Patrick *bleep*ing Stewart does not know how to act at all. Next thing you'll tell me is that every other voice actor in the game was just as monotone as a '98 voice actor.
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        Zero and X | June 09, 2008
        Are you out of your mind!? Patrick Stewart is a fantastic actor, hes Captain Luke Picard from f'ing Star Trek you twat! I hate Star Trek but he made it at least enjoyable if he was on, thats how good he is.
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        Final Blade | June 09, 2008
        <sub>You obviously have no clue what your talking about. Have you even gave the slightly thought that maybe just maybe that was supposed to be how the king acted? No of course not, since you worry about the actor and not the script writing of the game.
        
        Patrick Stewart is a phenomenal actor.</sub>
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        kik36 | June 09, 2008
        Oh did I upset a few Picard fans?! Hey, I ain't slamming Patrick Stewart as an actor overall just his lame role in Oblivion. Sorry, but that game was dull. It's just an opinion ladies, no need to get upset.
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        Final Blade | June 09, 2008
        _{Again you fail to realize that maybe thats how the script meant for the king to act. It has nothing to do with Stewart.}
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  DusktoDawn | June 08, 2008
  Only thing that I agree is the text...text....text.
  
  Why? I love to beat an rpg twice, and text can get boring..
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  yiyibowser | June 09, 2008
  I love RPG too but sometimes is to difficult and too realistic for me.
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  Xegaldis | June 10, 2008
  some of that is actually pretty funny